All those folks who think they didn’t vote for tariffs and who think that Trump has changed, clearly were not listening to him on the campaign trail. In between his non-stop yapping about the election he lost and his conscious decision to destroy the political landscape (not to mention friendships and family relationships) with his lies, he signalled loud and clear about his intentions for his second term. He said he would release the January 6 insurrectionists, and he did. Now he has a thug army to do his bidding. He also stated he would impose tariffs because he’s a gibbering idiot with no idea about how tariffs work or what their effect would be on the people who blindly supported him.
So no, he hasn’t changed. He’s doing what he said he would do and what was obviously what his supporters wanted.
Our job now is to point out to everyone who voted for Trump that they wanted this. Make them own it. Make them own the financial pain. Make them own the social disruption. They must have wanted it this way.
Yes, but why isn't the Democratic leadership doing this?? We're never going to get anywhere as long as they continue to be timidly traditionalist. I listened to an interview on Pod Save America with the new DNC chair, Ken Martin, and he just sounds like more of the same. I'm bitterly disappointed in the party; especially since they had an opportunity to appoint AOC ranking member on the oversight committee and DENIED her. I'm constantly screaming at them (in my mind) "You're blowing this!"
100% agreed. Out with the old white democrats and in with strong women and go-getters of any professed gender. I marched on the MN capitol on 1/18 in a large group of like minded Minnesotans given the subzero temps we all proudly proceeded through. One recently newly elected transgender MN house member, Leigh Finke, spoke truth to power so powerfully that her speech stood out in my mind as the highlight of the rally that day. We need new blood in the federal congress very badly. I support all firebrands of any ilk.
It almost seems like the Dems are afraid of thinking outside the box. It’s time to take the gloves off and do what needs to be done to thwart any unConstitutional ideas/executive orders/thoughts/impulses the imbecile-in-chief might be planning.
You nailed that. Especially the part about Trump being a gibbering idiot. IQ of 73 and can’t read. So blindly signs one fascist edict after the next. The authors of those executive orders are who are really running the country. Some of whom are illegals themselves. Elon Musk, example. As a matter of fact, Trump’s wife, the prostitute from Slovakia is illegal, as are her parents. And Barron’s birthright citizenship could be revoked if Trump’s insidiously stupid & unconstitutional EO gets past the corrupt Supreme Court. I read here today and compared pictures of Barron & Justin Trudeau, who Melania was so blatantly enamored with in the infamous picture. The two look identical. My point? She’s illegal, Trudeau is Canadian, Barron has no state period.
I think it's a hilarious insult and I support all hilarious insults against Trump and his ilk, but I saw the photo and honestly Barron looks just like a young DJT imo. And if you don't believe me, look at his eyes. He has his father's shark eyes, whereas JT has big, beautiful, blue, "get lost in me" eyes (which are clearly the peepers of an empath).
Yes, I appreciate what you say about him looking like DJT, but compared the lip line, the foreheads, the ears, the identical noses…I have no clue what color eyes DJT has, they are such pinholes from his amphetamine addiction and eternally sleepless nights. I have decided his eyes are a monstrous red like Satan’s. If Barron’s eyes are brown Trudeau could still be his dad. Blue eyes are genetically less dominant than brown when one parent has blue and one parent has brown. I assume Melanie’s are brown but who really knows with her Hamburglar get up at inauguration, as she stood holding the Bibles her antichrist husband dared not touch.
Senators (DEM and GOP) do a shit job asking basic questions of nominees such as "Does the buyer pay? Yes or No?" "Did Trump collect billions and billions from China in tariffs. Yes or No?" and therefore "WTF is the External Revenue Service?" Bottle rocket science. Lord help us.
There are many, many journalists who could have asked those questions. There are many, many newspapers who could have reported that tariffs are taxes while sanewashing Dumpy's speeches. None of them did. Some individual columnists like Jen Rubin and Paul Krugman who did, but those are lone voices crying in the wilderness. And, not surprizingly, both of those writers left their newspapers because the owners and editors of those newspapers were kowtowing to Dumpy.
I hear ya. The key is to yell it at Trump with the tape rolling.”who pays buyer or seller!!? very loud. use his anger and stupidity against him. Nominees have to answer or look stupid. That should have been easy to do. Then frame Lutnick’s answer vs Orange Einstein. Another missed opportunity.
The vile, imbecilic shit stains who voted for him thought they were gonna be the good kind of tariffs. You know, the kind that only stick it to the libtards, immigrants and whoever else they hate.......
The only "good" tariff is a dead tariff -- no, no; the only "good" ones, like the ones his past Republican idols liked so much, are the ones that protect domestic industry, manufacturing, agriculture, etc. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT ANY MORE HERE. >:-(
Well, some domestic agriculture, but we won't after all the "agriculture laborers" (= brown people, who may or may not be illegal in the first place, and 99.999999% of whom aren't criminals) leave, either voluntarily or otherwise.
We won't after the government agriculture subsidies get eliminated by AI (in a Dalek voice: "We do not need such things. Neither should you.").
We won't after Mango Mussolini diverts all of California's agriculture water (set aside for this purpose, not so much for a "useless little fish" [God? Do You make /anything/ that's useless? :-( {okay, maybe current Republican politicians}]) to...a giant mythological pipe leading right down to southern California...to put out fires that are 100% contained.
Hope the idiots like paying higher food prices for EVERYTHING, since a lot of our agriculture products come (came?) from Mexico and Canada (and let's not forget, California's exports along those lines /alone/ is worth billions, usually)... X-P
Maybe it’s time for farmers to drive their combines to Washington DC. Trump is the male version of Marie Antoinette. “Let them eat something else. I don’t care.”
Maybe, but she was nine years old when Rousseau claimed "a great princess" said it back in 1765, years before the French Revolution (and it wasn't "cake," it was "brioche," which is just basically fancy bread). Poor Marie got saddled with it in the mid 1800s, during other French Troubles. X-P
Re: #4: PA resident here. I love Tim Horton coffee already, and it’s about to get expensive here. So come on Canada! 🇨🇦 I like hockey also, and can speak a little French. 249 years was a good run for a country.
I was completely aware of what the effects of the tariffs would be. Anyone claiming surprise or ignorance did so willfully or had their heads up there, er in the clouds. Hope they’ve save some extra money for the new cost of living reality because it’s going to be rough riding for a long time. Maybe forever!
I think this is a perfect case study showing really stupid people making decisions based on the "news and information" they're getting, which is limited to propaganda. Even if they heard the word tariff, they had no fucking idea what it is or how it would affect them. Do you really think any of the nazi propaganda machines took the time to educate the dumbest, most vile fucks in society about how a tariff is going to harm them? Even then, it would have been everyone's fault except the fat, nazi piece of shit............and that's if they even believed it was happening.
There was a time you had to pay a "poll tax" to vote (which was FINALLY declared unconstitutional, back in the /1960s/). I think people need to take something like an IQ test (well, not really; those things are pretty useless after you turn like 20 or so*) or similar before you can register. Like on those signs at an amusement park, "You Must Be This Smart (amoeba, lungfish, rhesus monkey, MAGA human, educated human [with the slider pointer between those last two]) To Vote."
*I.Q. = the ratio of: your "intellectual" age divided by your chronological age x 100. If you can do what a 20 year old can do at age 10, that's 20/10 x 100 = 200 I.Q. If you can do what a 40 year old can do at age 20, who cares?
Nancy..... It's probably too late. The dumbfuckification of this "country" is officially complete. On his best day, Rod Serling could not have written something so horrifying on so many levels. Not even the Twilight Zone is this fucked up..
There's the distinct possibility that Ontario will shut down hydro to the USA. It's winter and very cold. Let's see how long it takes for people to start screaming at Trump. Btw, Trump has effectively ripped up CUSMA and the tariffs are illegal under the agreement. Is this what Americans voted for? Tourism in the US will decline as Canadians are boycotting the US. We aren't the only people planning to travel elsewhere. Lumber and aluminum will immediately increase in cost. Potash will be more expensive for US farmers. The list is endless. Oh, oil and gas will also increase in price. Life is about to become real and very tenuous.
Good! Stand firm! Even though he's pushed it back for 30 days ("I won! I won! I won! :D"), there's nothing to say he won't try it again after that. X-P
And he doesn't give a damn; he's not up for re-election ever again (one way or another). The Republican Party will probably suffer as a result, but again, why should he care, once he's got what he wanted out of it?
Let's see. How many short term disruptions equal 1 big life affecting disruption? 1 Tariffs disruption + 1 Agency mass firing disruption + 1 government funds freezing disruption + 1 government safety programs disruption = 1 huge life affecting disruption! Did I get them all?
We need billboards in red states to show all of this 💩.
As I type this, the head of the Consumer Protection Bureau just got fired! That is another life changing disruption to add to the 💩pile.
What a suspicious likeness of Baron to Trudeau! That should really piss him off, God! Thank you for keeping us "fighting mad". We need the motivation! Thank you, God! Amen! Awomen!
According to the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo from 1848, it gave the U.S. California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona; parts of Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming were also in there. So, give those states back to Mexico. ;)
I'm sure Kansas and Oklahoma would just loooooooove that... X-D
You're welcome. Canada is more diverse than the US and as a result, we have the benefit of a kaleidoscope of international foods and customs. We celebrate all of it.
All those folks who think they didn’t vote for tariffs and who think that Trump has changed, clearly were not listening to him on the campaign trail. In between his non-stop yapping about the election he lost and his conscious decision to destroy the political landscape (not to mention friendships and family relationships) with his lies, he signalled loud and clear about his intentions for his second term. He said he would release the January 6 insurrectionists, and he did. Now he has a thug army to do his bidding. He also stated he would impose tariffs because he’s a gibbering idiot with no idea about how tariffs work or what their effect would be on the people who blindly supported him.
So no, he hasn’t changed. He’s doing what he said he would do and what was obviously what his supporters wanted.
Our job now is to point out to everyone who voted for Trump that they wanted this. Make them own it. Make them own the financial pain. Make them own the social disruption. They must have wanted it this way.
Yes, but why isn't the Democratic leadership doing this?? We're never going to get anywhere as long as they continue to be timidly traditionalist. I listened to an interview on Pod Save America with the new DNC chair, Ken Martin, and he just sounds like more of the same. I'm bitterly disappointed in the party; especially since they had an opportunity to appoint AOC ranking member on the oversight committee and DENIED her. I'm constantly screaming at them (in my mind) "You're blowing this!"
100% agreed. Out with the old white democrats and in with strong women and go-getters of any professed gender. I marched on the MN capitol on 1/18 in a large group of like minded Minnesotans given the subzero temps we all proudly proceeded through. One recently newly elected transgender MN house member, Leigh Finke, spoke truth to power so powerfully that her speech stood out in my mind as the highlight of the rally that day. We need new blood in the federal congress very badly. I support all firebrands of any ilk.
It almost seems like the Dems are afraid of thinking outside the box. It’s time to take the gloves off and do what needs to be done to thwart any unConstitutional ideas/executive orders/thoughts/impulses the imbecile-in-chief might be planning.
You nailed that. Especially the part about Trump being a gibbering idiot. IQ of 73 and can’t read. So blindly signs one fascist edict after the next. The authors of those executive orders are who are really running the country. Some of whom are illegals themselves. Elon Musk, example. As a matter of fact, Trump’s wife, the prostitute from Slovakia is illegal, as are her parents. And Barron’s birthright citizenship could be revoked if Trump’s insidiously stupid & unconstitutional EO gets past the corrupt Supreme Court. I read here today and compared pictures of Barron & Justin Trudeau, who Melania was so blatantly enamored with in the infamous picture. The two look identical. My point? She’s illegal, Trudeau is Canadian, Barron has no state period.
I think it's a hilarious insult and I support all hilarious insults against Trump and his ilk, but I saw the photo and honestly Barron looks just like a young DJT imo. And if you don't believe me, look at his eyes. He has his father's shark eyes, whereas JT has big, beautiful, blue, "get lost in me" eyes (which are clearly the peepers of an empath).
Yes, I appreciate what you say about him looking like DJT, but compared the lip line, the foreheads, the ears, the identical noses…I have no clue what color eyes DJT has, they are such pinholes from his amphetamine addiction and eternally sleepless nights. I have decided his eyes are a monstrous red like Satan’s. If Barron’s eyes are brown Trudeau could still be his dad. Blue eyes are genetically less dominant than brown when one parent has blue and one parent has brown. I assume Melanie’s are brown but who really knows with her Hamburglar get up at inauguration, as she stood holding the Bibles her antichrist husband dared not touch.
From what I've heard, most of the "authors" of his EO's is AI, the cheap version. X-P
Probably the one who proudly proclaimed something about eating small rocks every day. X-P
Though I wouldn't be surprised if President Musk had something to do with them; couldn't've been Grok, though. Grok would care about us. :-/
I'd gladly live in Michigan, Canada ... vs Michigan, USA
Same! I’m in Chicago. Chicago, IL, Canada sounds lovely to me.
It rolls off the tongue like silk! CILC! I love it!
All we have to do is cross the St. Mary’s River. Or the Windsor Tunnel. Or the Ambassador Bridge. I’m ready. Let’s go.
Or in my case swim across the Rainy river near the mouth of Lake of the Woods.
I would be in London, Canada not London, Kentucky!!
Senators (DEM and GOP) do a shit job asking basic questions of nominees such as "Does the buyer pay? Yes or No?" "Did Trump collect billions and billions from China in tariffs. Yes or No?" and therefore "WTF is the External Revenue Service?" Bottle rocket science. Lord help us.
There are many, many journalists who could have asked those questions. There are many, many newspapers who could have reported that tariffs are taxes while sanewashing Dumpy's speeches. None of them did. Some individual columnists like Jen Rubin and Paul Krugman who did, but those are lone voices crying in the wilderness. And, not surprizingly, both of those writers left their newspapers because the owners and editors of those newspapers were kowtowing to Dumpy.
I hear ya. The key is to yell it at Trump with the tape rolling.”who pays buyer or seller!!? very loud. use his anger and stupidity against him. Nominees have to answer or look stupid. That should have been easy to do. Then frame Lutnick’s answer vs Orange Einstein. Another missed opportunity.
The vile, imbecilic shit stains who voted for him thought they were gonna be the good kind of tariffs. You know, the kind that only stick it to the libtards, immigrants and whoever else they hate.......
The only "good" tariff is a dead tariff -- no, no; the only "good" ones, like the ones his past Republican idols liked so much, are the ones that protect domestic industry, manufacturing, agriculture, etc. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT ANY MORE HERE. >:-(
Well, some domestic agriculture, but we won't after all the "agriculture laborers" (= brown people, who may or may not be illegal in the first place, and 99.999999% of whom aren't criminals) leave, either voluntarily or otherwise.
We won't after the government agriculture subsidies get eliminated by AI (in a Dalek voice: "We do not need such things. Neither should you.").
We won't after Mango Mussolini diverts all of California's agriculture water (set aside for this purpose, not so much for a "useless little fish" [God? Do You make /anything/ that's useless? :-( {okay, maybe current Republican politicians}]) to...a giant mythological pipe leading right down to southern California...to put out fires that are 100% contained.
Hope the idiots like paying higher food prices for EVERYTHING, since a lot of our agriculture products come (came?) from Mexico and Canada (and let's not forget, California's exports along those lines /alone/ is worth billions, usually)... X-P
Maybe it’s time for farmers to drive their combines to Washington DC. Trump is the male version of Marie Antoinette. “Let them eat something else. I don’t care.”
Was she fat, orange and disease-ridden too? 😉
Yeah. And she wore a big wig!
One of them was about 18" tall and had a little ship sailing on top of it.
Maybe, but she was nine years old when Rousseau claimed "a great princess" said it back in 1765, years before the French Revolution (and it wasn't "cake," it was "brioche," which is just basically fancy bread). Poor Marie got saddled with it in the mid 1800s, during other French Troubles. X-P
Re: #4: PA resident here. I love Tim Horton coffee already, and it’s about to get expensive here. So come on Canada! 🇨🇦 I like hockey also, and can speak a little French. 249 years was a good run for a country.
Right on!
I was completely aware of what the effects of the tariffs would be. Anyone claiming surprise or ignorance did so willfully or had their heads up there, er in the clouds. Hope they’ve save some extra money for the new cost of living reality because it’s going to be rough riding for a long time. Maybe forever!
I think this is a perfect case study showing really stupid people making decisions based on the "news and information" they're getting, which is limited to propaganda. Even if they heard the word tariff, they had no fucking idea what it is or how it would affect them. Do you really think any of the nazi propaganda machines took the time to educate the dumbest, most vile fucks in society about how a tariff is going to harm them? Even then, it would have been everyone's fault except the fat, nazi piece of shit............and that's if they even believed it was happening.
Trump loves the masses as they are ignorant. Now we all suffer for their folly.
There was a time you had to pay a "poll tax" to vote (which was FINALLY declared unconstitutional, back in the /1960s/). I think people need to take something like an IQ test (well, not really; those things are pretty useless after you turn like 20 or so*) or similar before you can register. Like on those signs at an amusement park, "You Must Be This Smart (amoeba, lungfish, rhesus monkey, MAGA human, educated human [with the slider pointer between those last two]) To Vote."
*I.Q. = the ratio of: your "intellectual" age divided by your chronological age x 100. If you can do what a 20 year old can do at age 10, that's 20/10 x 100 = 200 I.Q. If you can do what a 40 year old can do at age 20, who cares?
Nancy..... It's probably too late. The dumbfuckification of this "country" is officially complete. On his best day, Rod Serling could not have written something so horrifying on so many levels. Not even the Twilight Zone is this fucked up..
There's the distinct possibility that Ontario will shut down hydro to the USA. It's winter and very cold. Let's see how long it takes for people to start screaming at Trump. Btw, Trump has effectively ripped up CUSMA and the tariffs are illegal under the agreement. Is this what Americans voted for? Tourism in the US will decline as Canadians are boycotting the US. We aren't the only people planning to travel elsewhere. Lumber and aluminum will immediately increase in cost. Potash will be more expensive for US farmers. The list is endless. Oh, oil and gas will also increase in price. Life is about to become real and very tenuous.
I think Dumpy carved out an exception for oil and gas.
He has warned Canada not to retaliate or he will increase the tariffs. We will not capitulate.
Good! Stand firm! Even though he's pushed it back for 30 days ("I won! I won! I won! :D"), there's nothing to say he won't try it again after that. X-P
And he doesn't give a damn; he's not up for re-election ever again (one way or another). The Republican Party will probably suffer as a result, but again, why should he care, once he's got what he wanted out of it?
Illinois supporter here. I would SO gladly be a Canadian.
We sure could have used some of these epiphanies a little earlier on I would say.
Let's see. How many short term disruptions equal 1 big life affecting disruption? 1 Tariffs disruption + 1 Agency mass firing disruption + 1 government funds freezing disruption + 1 government safety programs disruption = 1 huge life affecting disruption! Did I get them all?
We need billboards in red states to show all of this 💩.
As I type this, the head of the Consumer Protection Bureau just got fired! That is another life changing disruption to add to the 💩pile.
What a suspicious likeness of Baron to Trudeau! That should really piss him off, God! Thank you for keeping us "fighting mad". We need the motivation! Thank you, God! Amen! Awomen!
Better brush up on your civil disobedience training. It's going to be needed.
Give Missouri to Mexico. It would piss off a lot of dumbasses.
It would REALLY piss off Mexico, and we don't need to do that right now.
According to the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo from 1848, it gave the U.S. California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona; parts of Colorado, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming were also in there. So, give those states back to Mexico. ;)
I'm sure Kansas and Oklahoma would just loooooooove that... X-D
Did he give himself an exemption for Trumpandise manufactured in China, such as golden sneakers?
Now on the other hand, something evening the field against Temu would be of more value.
Umm I’m in California. Can I adjust the border a little? My last Spanish class was 50 years ago and I was terrible. My French is a tiny bit better.
And if we become part of Canada, no one will need to turn the giant faucet on for us!! ;) We might miss out on some great Mexican food, though.
We do have Mexican food and a world of culinary delights. You name it, we have it.
Great to know!! Thank you, Nancy!
You're welcome. Canada is more diverse than the US and as a result, we have the benefit of a kaleidoscope of international foods and customs. We celebrate all of it.
I've never been to Canada and have always wanted to go there. I wish I had the money (and good health) to travel.
I think America must be the least educated country in the world. No offense to the educated. Good job for rising above the masses.