This is exactly what so many people warned us about. I had this discussion about RFK Jr 4 months ago with MAGA coworkers. I told them he was already responsible for the deaths of 80 children in Somoa because he convinced parents not to vaccinate them. Of course they didn't believe me. And he we are. Congress pulled the trigger on the death sentence for all of us by confirming this idiot. We're going back to medieval times with all the quacks running the HHS.
I'm afraid what happened in Somoa is a preview of what we are going to experience here in the U.S. The HHS has already restricted the Covid vaccine to people 65 years old or older. What about everyone else who needs it? And measles is running rampant. Measles were eradicated 30 years ago in the U.S. Thanks to anti-vaxxers they're back. The FAFO we're all about to experience is going to be catastrophic health wise. And to think, none of this had to happen. It's a man-made apocalypse. Whoever voted for this dumpster fire should be ashamed. People are going to die needlessly.
Senator Bill Cassidy, MD (R-La) cast the final YES vote to confirm RFK Jr as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Being an MD and believing in science, Senator Cassidy spent quite a long time talking with Kennedy, who has no scientific or medical training or experience in running the world’s premiere health care agency. He also is a conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer, yet RFK, Jr promised Senator Cassidy that he would run the nation’s top health care agencies with the advice of experienced public health experts. We know now that Kennedy has broken all of the promises he made to Senator Cassidy. He has fired two different people as the Head of the CDC and the CDC is now being run by someone who is anti-science and not an expert of any kind. RFK,Jr fired all of the members of the Vaccine Advisory Committee and replaced them with anti-vaxxers. They recently released a list of new vaccine rules that severely limits who is eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine. Eligible are •people 65+ and •people under 65 with serious underlying health conditions. Pregnant women are not eligible, even though the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology has said that COVID-19 in a pregnant woman is dangerous to both her and the fetus. Since the vaccine lists have been released, three long time experts on infectious diseases and vaccines have resigned. The wealth of knowledge at the CDC re: infectious diseases, vaccines, public health emergencies, and pandemic response are all gone. Senator Cassidy is furious and has publicly written that RFK, Jr is a dangerous person and should be fired or impeached. Senator Bernie Sanders has called for a Senate investigation into RFK Jr where he must testify under oath. This morning (Labor Day) CDC Staffers are protesting outside the main building in Atlanta, against RFK, Jr and calling for him to be replaced.
Continuing the fire analogy, this is like a fireman believing an arsonist who said he wouldn't burn down the house and handing him a gas can and flame thrower. Shame on any medical doctor who confirmed this anti-vaxxer. When people show you who they are, believe them.
I can sympathize with the idiot. In 2009 - in my 40s - my immune system collapsed. I had pneumonia five times in seven months. When I was finally able to get my immunoglobulin levels tested, my IgG level was 150 - it should be between 700 and about 1400. The other three Ig types were basically zero. I spent about six months in relative isolation while antibody therapy brought them back into a more normal range and my lungs recovered. And it sucked.
Stage 4 lung cancer means you're going to die. I've lost several friends to cancer, including my dad, and it sucks. RFK is making it much worse for everyone, not just in this country but around the world. In a caring country, he wouldn't have been allowed near the levers of power, nor would our Beloved Leader at 1600 Pennsylvania or Vance. But as Thiel and Project 2025 has demonstrated, that's not the country we live in: we live in one that's being engineered for the tech bros, and we get to be serfs with no education, no long life spans, and no voice in our lives or the political process.
That's the future they've declared for us.
But hey! At least the MAGAs got to own the libtards, Meanwhile their Mexican wives on green cards vanish suddenly and their VA doctors are no longer there and they can't get farm loans. But that's all Biden's fault, isn't it?
Just like all those folks who believed Trump that COVID was just like the flu and nobody was going to die from it. Then they continued to go around without masks or social distancing. Even when they themselves were in the hospital desperately suffering from COVID, they still believed their dear leader. Those who survived still voted for the stupid asshole two more times!
Ignorant = you don't know something about something. Nothing to be ashamed of, very easy to cure: learn something about something, and boom! no more ignorance! :D
In my view, willful ignorance is actually worse than stupidity. I think a decent education can also cure stupidity, although if we are considering developmentally delayed individuals to be in either category, there may be some kind of limit on how much of a cure can be accomplished. To me, willful ignorance implies a stubborn clinging to one’s own narrative, despite any and all factual information provided to show that the specific story one tells themself is not true.
Like the people who believe ONE disgruntled ex-employee of NASA who wanted to make his former employers look bad vs. the over 400,000 people who worked on the Apollo Program and/or who saw the results, at any rate; when I was a kid and my grandad was living in Florida (where he owned an orange grove; could be why we got the tour, or it could've been a regular thing), my parents and I went to the Vehicle Assembly Building where they were putting together the parts for one of the Saturn Vs: Apollo 15 or 16, can't remember which, but it wasn't a "big /important/" mission.
I'll never forget being so impressed to be inside a building so huge they had CRANES inside (and birds, too, flying up in the rafters)! :D They were verrrrry carefully fitting together two of the Stage 1 bits (the biggest, where most of the fuel was) on top of the earth-mover that would eventually get it out the doors. I started giggling madly, because from our vantage point, we could look down at these two stadiums (stadia? huge bits) being gently introduced to each other, and one bit had female screw threads, and the other had male screw threads, like two pieces of garden hose.
"[sigh] What's funny, little girl?"
"[giggle, point] Garden hose?!"
"Well, when those 'garden hose' pieces finally get finished joining up, the distance between each screw thread has to be less than the thickness of a sheet of paper." (or some such; can't recall if the tour guide's answer was then and there and I remembered it, or I looked it up later)
"Oooooooh! :D"
Sadly, I was either too young or too old to qualify for any space flight testing, and for the longest time, didn't have the math to qualify as an engineer (was probably too old to qualify after the standards for available crew roles relaxed a bit)...but I still love the concept. :)
Anyone who insists on claiming the entire Apollo Program was a hoax, that we never did anything (with a vehicle 363 feet tall? what ELSE were they doing with it??), never went to the Moon, is, in my humble opinion, willfully ignorant. >:-/
At least they aren't as dangerous as vaxx-denying idiots... X-P
"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." MLK Jr.
Citizens my age (65) worry that it may take longer than my expected lifetime for accountability, so I protest, write postcards, and call politicians for my nieces and nephews.
My husband’s sister is full of QANON mentality. During Covid in 2020, she watched a YouTube video and became an expert epidemiologist. She told everyone not to wear a face mask. Then she told everyone to NOT get the vaccine. She and her husband got Covid, but lived. Oh, she’s an RN, on paper only. Ignorant fuckers like her don’t belong in nursing.
I am a scientist. My degree is in engineering, I studied thermodynamics, heat transfer, and applied statistics, and my thesis was on kinematics of spherical mechanisms. I work as an interface and data analyst in healthcare. And yeah... I get to say that a lot. ;-)
Woo-hoo! :D Yep! :) May you never lack for a job! :)
On the one hand, those four small words are sooo satisfying... ;-)
On the other hand, it's so depressing to have to say them so often. X-P
(degrees in marine biology and wildlife biology; my timing sucked in that I got them in a time when /no one/ wanted to listen to field biologists... X-P)
Love your analogies about the burning house God! Priceless, I guess that means nobody is getting Covid shots this time around unless your over 65 which I am. But I will most likely get it from the Pharmacy at my local Health clinic! I think the dude needs to look a little further into it. But if his wife is under 65 it might not matter.
I’m not sure. I’m way older than 65 and there are states where cvs, Walgreens, etc appear to not giving shots. I’m immunocompromised and having covid from - even vaccinated - spouses having to attend a work event where to eat (you sorta have to over two full days) it came home. I’m calling tomorrow to ask. Check to be sure you can. My hope is the Amer Hospital Assn will lobby harder bc they will be hit hardest.
I looked this up and our state's (PA) CVS's aren't carrying Covid shots I think there are 16 other states that aren't carrying them either. But if you go to a physician (and I think he said she had Cancer) they might, just might be able to provide a Covid shot for him and his wife. Still what the HHS secretary did is STILL appalling and disgusting and should be impeached for his careless actions!
This is exactly what so many people warned us about. I had this discussion about RFK Jr 4 months ago with MAGA coworkers. I told them he was already responsible for the deaths of 80 children in Somoa because he convinced parents not to vaccinate them. Of course they didn't believe me. And he we are. Congress pulled the trigger on the death sentence for all of us by confirming this idiot. We're going back to medieval times with all the quacks running the HHS.
Don’t like the fact that 80Children Died Sarah. The rest of your comment is true. They are All idiots who FAFO.
Sadly.
I'm afraid what happened in Somoa is a preview of what we are going to experience here in the U.S. The HHS has already restricted the Covid vaccine to people 65 years old or older. What about everyone else who needs it? And measles is running rampant. Measles were eradicated 30 years ago in the U.S. Thanks to anti-vaxxers they're back. The FAFO we're all about to experience is going to be catastrophic health wise. And to think, none of this had to happen. It's a man-made apocalypse. Whoever voted for this dumpster fire should be ashamed. People are going to die needlessly.
Senator Bill Cassidy, MD (R-La) cast the final YES vote to confirm RFK Jr as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Being an MD and believing in science, Senator Cassidy spent quite a long time talking with Kennedy, who has no scientific or medical training or experience in running the world’s premiere health care agency. He also is a conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer, yet RFK, Jr promised Senator Cassidy that he would run the nation’s top health care agencies with the advice of experienced public health experts. We know now that Kennedy has broken all of the promises he made to Senator Cassidy. He has fired two different people as the Head of the CDC and the CDC is now being run by someone who is anti-science and not an expert of any kind. RFK,Jr fired all of the members of the Vaccine Advisory Committee and replaced them with anti-vaxxers. They recently released a list of new vaccine rules that severely limits who is eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine. Eligible are •people 65+ and •people under 65 with serious underlying health conditions. Pregnant women are not eligible, even though the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology has said that COVID-19 in a pregnant woman is dangerous to both her and the fetus. Since the vaccine lists have been released, three long time experts on infectious diseases and vaccines have resigned. The wealth of knowledge at the CDC re: infectious diseases, vaccines, public health emergencies, and pandemic response are all gone. Senator Cassidy is furious and has publicly written that RFK, Jr is a dangerous person and should be fired or impeached. Senator Bernie Sanders has called for a Senate investigation into RFK Jr where he must testify under oath. This morning (Labor Day) CDC Staffers are protesting outside the main building in Atlanta, against RFK, Jr and calling for him to be replaced.
Continuing the fire analogy, this is like a fireman believing an arsonist who said he wouldn't burn down the house and handing him a gas can and flame thrower. Shame on any medical doctor who confirmed this anti-vaxxer. When people show you who they are, believe them.
Eric's logic: see what Joe Biden made us do? All that competence made us put crazy ass people in charge. Thanks Joe Biden.
I can sympathize with the idiot. In 2009 - in my 40s - my immune system collapsed. I had pneumonia five times in seven months. When I was finally able to get my immunoglobulin levels tested, my IgG level was 150 - it should be between 700 and about 1400. The other three Ig types were basically zero. I spent about six months in relative isolation while antibody therapy brought them back into a more normal range and my lungs recovered. And it sucked.
Stage 4 lung cancer means you're going to die. I've lost several friends to cancer, including my dad, and it sucks. RFK is making it much worse for everyone, not just in this country but around the world. In a caring country, he wouldn't have been allowed near the levers of power, nor would our Beloved Leader at 1600 Pennsylvania or Vance. But as Thiel and Project 2025 has demonstrated, that's not the country we live in: we live in one that's being engineered for the tech bros, and we get to be serfs with no education, no long life spans, and no voice in our lives or the political process.
That's the future they've declared for us.
But hey! At least the MAGAs got to own the libtards, Meanwhile their Mexican wives on green cards vanish suddenly and their VA doctors are no longer there and they can't get farm loans. But that's all Biden's fault, isn't it?
Wait - I thought it was all Obama's fault. I'm confused.
Obama must have started it for Biden to continue the theme.
I'm always confused these days.
Me too.
Well, first it was Obama's fault, then it was Biden's. ;)
Ah. Thank you for clearing that up. I'm not confused anymore.😁
My brain’s fried
You gave the perfect analogy, “His house is burning down and instead of blaming the arsonists, he’s blaming the Fire Chief who retired last year”.
Excellent analogy
many, too many people believe that this will not affect them.
Just like all those folks who believed Trump that COVID was just like the flu and nobody was going to die from it. Then they continued to go around without masks or social distancing. Even when they themselves were in the hospital desperately suffering from COVID, they still believed their dear leader. Those who survived still voted for the stupid asshole two more times!
That argument never made sense! Millions of people die every single year from the flu.
Millions is a gross exaggeration.
According to Statista, the numbers are approximately 267,000 from 2011-2024,
more than a decade of statistics.
Likely some of those unfortunate folks weren't vaccinated.
Vaccines are generally a good thing.
Well, maybe not millions in this country, but hundreds of thousands are still way too many. :-/
And yeah, vaccines rule, idiots drool. ;)
Mentally lazy. I like that. Not unintelligent, just unwilling to use the brains the good lord (or nature, if you prefer) gave them.
Ignorant = you don't know something about something. Nothing to be ashamed of, very easy to cure: learn something about something, and boom! no more ignorance! :D
Willfully ignorant = stupidity.
In my view, willful ignorance is actually worse than stupidity. I think a decent education can also cure stupidity, although if we are considering developmentally delayed individuals to be in either category, there may be some kind of limit on how much of a cure can be accomplished. To me, willful ignorance implies a stubborn clinging to one’s own narrative, despite any and all factual information provided to show that the specific story one tells themself is not true.
Like the people who believe ONE disgruntled ex-employee of NASA who wanted to make his former employers look bad vs. the over 400,000 people who worked on the Apollo Program and/or who saw the results, at any rate; when I was a kid and my grandad was living in Florida (where he owned an orange grove; could be why we got the tour, or it could've been a regular thing), my parents and I went to the Vehicle Assembly Building where they were putting together the parts for one of the Saturn Vs: Apollo 15 or 16, can't remember which, but it wasn't a "big /important/" mission.
I'll never forget being so impressed to be inside a building so huge they had CRANES inside (and birds, too, flying up in the rafters)! :D They were verrrrry carefully fitting together two of the Stage 1 bits (the biggest, where most of the fuel was) on top of the earth-mover that would eventually get it out the doors. I started giggling madly, because from our vantage point, we could look down at these two stadiums (stadia? huge bits) being gently introduced to each other, and one bit had female screw threads, and the other had male screw threads, like two pieces of garden hose.
"[sigh] What's funny, little girl?"
"[giggle, point] Garden hose?!"
"Well, when those 'garden hose' pieces finally get finished joining up, the distance between each screw thread has to be less than the thickness of a sheet of paper." (or some such; can't recall if the tour guide's answer was then and there and I remembered it, or I looked it up later)
"Oooooooh! :D"
Sadly, I was either too young or too old to qualify for any space flight testing, and for the longest time, didn't have the math to qualify as an engineer (was probably too old to qualify after the standards for available crew roles relaxed a bit)...but I still love the concept. :)
Anyone who insists on claiming the entire Apollo Program was a hoax, that we never did anything (with a vehicle 363 feet tall? what ELSE were they doing with it??), never went to the Moon, is, in my humble opinion, willfully ignorant. >:-/
At least they aren't as dangerous as vaxx-denying idiots... X-P
Yes, sadly, we do.
Some seem to have had their brains mined out by worms.
👏🏻💗👏🏻🎊👏🏻🎉
Erick Erickson’s parents clearly are not very creative. Simple mindedness appears to run in the family.
How does this death cult continue to be held unaccountable for their crazy?!
"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." MLK Jr.
Citizens my age (65) worry that it may take longer than my expected lifetime for accountability, so I protest, write postcards, and call politicians for my nieces and nephews.
Alternative facts breed alternative reality.
"the current mess at HHS" was caused by Joe Biden. Right. And I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.
🥰
wake up maganuts. How many people including children have to die for these idiotic policies. I'm talking about vaccines and guns.
Let’s not forget immigration. That has already led to deaths as well.
Yeah; how many have died so far in ICE captivity? :-/
Way too many... :(
Pity the stupid for they are lost
🤣
My husband’s sister is full of QANON mentality. During Covid in 2020, she watched a YouTube video and became an expert epidemiologist. She told everyone not to wear a face mask. Then she told everyone to NOT get the vaccine. She and her husband got Covid, but lived. Oh, she’s an RN, on paper only. Ignorant fuckers like her don’t belong in nursing.
It’s particularly unsettling to hear MAGA (or QANON) nonsense from medical people. They more than any should have the facts.
Anyone else tired of saying "I told you so"? Yeah... That.
P. S. Dear God.... I grew up in Ukraine, and where I come from, we have a proverb, "Hope for God but don't be an idiot yourself." So... Just saying.
I'm so sorry about what's happened in your homeland. Be strong!!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦💙💛
You sound like a scientist! :D Our four favorite words; either:
"We told you so"
-or-
"I told you so"
depending on the circumstances. ;-)
I am a scientist. My degree is in engineering, I studied thermodynamics, heat transfer, and applied statistics, and my thesis was on kinematics of spherical mechanisms. I work as an interface and data analyst in healthcare. And yeah... I get to say that a lot. ;-)
Woo-hoo! :D Yep! :) May you never lack for a job! :)
On the one hand, those four small words are sooo satisfying... ;-)
On the other hand, it's so depressing to have to say them so often. X-P
(degrees in marine biology and wildlife biology; my timing sucked in that I got them in a time when /no one/ wanted to listen to field biologists... X-P)
It's infuriating. What a fucking moron.
What’s wrong with these people?! I just cannot understand how President Biden’s administration bears any responsibility for this.
I agree with you 100%! Of course, they always blame President Joe Biden.
Love your analogies about the burning house God! Priceless, I guess that means nobody is getting Covid shots this time around unless your over 65 which I am. But I will most likely get it from the Pharmacy at my local Health clinic! I think the dude needs to look a little further into it. But if his wife is under 65 it might not matter.
I’m not sure. I’m way older than 65 and there are states where cvs, Walgreens, etc appear to not giving shots. I’m immunocompromised and having covid from - even vaccinated - spouses having to attend a work event where to eat (you sorta have to over two full days) it came home. I’m calling tomorrow to ask. Check to be sure you can. My hope is the Amer Hospital Assn will lobby harder bc they will be hit hardest.
I looked this up and our state's (PA) CVS's aren't carrying Covid shots I think there are 16 other states that aren't carrying them either. But if you go to a physician (and I think he said she had Cancer) they might, just might be able to provide a Covid shot for him and his wife. Still what the HHS secretary did is STILL appalling and disgusting and should be impeached for his careless actions!